Things I’ve Read and Liked

Joe Posnanski does a Poz-style post comparing prospect lists.  He doesn’t actually mention the Mets by name, at all, but he uses the Nationals relatively gentle handling of Stephen Strasburg as compared with the Indians “abuse” of a 17-year-old Bob Feller to argue for a more aggressive handling of prospects.  And Mets fans groaned.

Bob Feller debuted over 73 years ago, on July 19, 1936.  It’s just a different game.  I’m not suggesting Feller wouldn’t be awesome today, but the game on the field is pretty different, no?
I love reading Posnanski, but sometimes his stuff just goes on and on, usually in a good way, but how in the world does one process all of this information now?

My favorite part of this Ted Berg post is not that he’s coming to hang out in Savannah, although I am excited for that too, but that he goes all free-association with the word Houston to link to Beck.  My man-crush on Beck predates my being a man.  Easily.

If this Chocolate Strawberry rap from 1987 doesn’t make you smile, you might actually not be human, or a Mets fan.

There are 5 comments

  1. Not4Nuttin

    The Bob Feller comparison and Omar’s recently attributed quote about Johan Santana being a reliever to start his career fall more under the category of “Things I’ve read and HATE!”

    Lets start with Omar first and in no particular order (and to be clear, I am not an Omar basher, though he does sometimes absolutely confound me and as time goes by, I have less and less faith in his ability to run an organization

    1. Pointing to an isolated example (Johan) of when it arguably worked, does not provide support for ignoring the general rule of coddling a 20 year old pitcher (who has been pitching all of 5 years?).

    2. Johan only pitched in relief because he was a Rule V selection and had to be kept on the ML roster the whole season.

    3. Even as a reliever, Johan was basically coddled, pitching every several days on average. For instance, he pitched on April 3, 7, 12, 22, 30, then May 5, 15, 21, then June 3, 6, 14, 17, 18, 23. Why does Manuel have a need to see whether Mejia is capable of throwing back-to-back days in mid-March? And why is Minaya letting him do so? Protect the kid first for crying out loud! If you are really going to rely on the Twins’ using Santana in relief in 2000 as precedence, how about actually paying attention to exactly how they used Santana?!? Mid-June is the first time he pitched back to back games. Then he did so again in back-to-back-to-back games in early July (2nd, 3rd and 4th) followed by a 10 day break, then back-to-back in mid July (14th, 15th) and never again the rest of the season – July use (2,3,4,14,15,22,30), August use (1,10,16,30) and Sept use (5,10,16,21,27).

    This one really gets me. How lazy to point to an example and ignore the details behind it? This does not reflect someone who is taking a long term or thoughtful approach to his job.

    4. Whether you agree with it or disagree with it, teams basically coddle pitchers, at least compared to how they treated them in the past, with pitch counts, and innings counts, etc. They do it because they apparently believe that it increases their return on investment by minimizing the stress that is put on a pitchers arm. Funny thing is that much of the coddling disappears once a pitcher is thrown into the bullpen. Relievers, by and large, are thrown out to pitch as often as they can, so long as they are effective. While I have found pitch counts and the disappearance of pitchers finishing what they started, I find it more perplexing that teams seemingly just abandon this coddling approach to pitchers once a pitcher proves they cannot start and are “only” relievers. Some pitchers have rubber arms and can throw many days in a row, but generally that is not something you ask of young pitchers, especially starters who are elite prospects. So all this begs of the question of JUST WHAT THE HECK IS MEJIA DOING PITCHING BACK TO BACK DAYS IN MID-MARCH? AND WHY WOULD YOU PUT HIM IN THE PEN?

    There is more, but I’ve already stretched this too long.

    How many other stud young pitchers in the past 10-20 years started out in relief

    Pitching in relief Johan prove anything, other than that perhaps that isolated example is the exception to the rule. In other words, play the odds for crying out loud.

    2.

    Pitchers are coddled more now than they were even 10 years ago. So comparing Johan’s treatmentJohan started

      1. Toby Hyde

        Interesting points on the Twins’ initial handling of Johan in the bullpen. That seems like material for a post later this week.

      2. Not4Nuttin

        I’m just going off of gamelogs, and we all know that numbers do not tell the whole story. Just wanted to throw in that one caveat.

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